On the purity of Human Design or mixing it with other frameworks/modalities:
It has nothing to do with following one persons words (Ra Uru Hu) by the letter, or even the Human Design framework ‘to a fault’.
It is about seeing that “all knowledge burns down in the face of Strategy & Authority” and having seen that, experienced it.
By tinkering with it, to add or subtract, we’re tinkering with knowledge alone.
For instance I’ve been in several GeneKeys DeepDives, was live in London with Richard and others just before the book got out, did GK Host and Guide training, was asked to become a GK Guide, and had a great time exploring my emotional world through it. It was incredibly valuable to me and everyone else I know or came in contact with.
But as I also deepened my experience with HD I came to see, that not HD, not Ra, not GK, not any of it, not PHS, not this economic framework or that political philosophy, not Advaita Vedanta was key, but S&A was, my S&A for me, by me.
It truly holds everything, to make those decisions by yourself, which is often times not even decision -making- but realization of what is correct. The dawning awareness of that reality.
And that there is nothing wrong with someone telling me this.
The funny thing is, people claim and clamor that they are free to mix it (which they are), how open and progressive that is, but as soon as someone is telling them (why) not to mix it, all the openness and progressiveness is out the window and they become fundamentalist mixers all of a sudden, just like what they accuse others of doing ! 🙂
While more and more HD people shake their heads and become more and more silent in FB HD groups because of the enormous influx of people indeed wanting to mix, or as they fear the no choice dilemma, to at least have the option as they then cling to it and defend it ferociously, but not creating their own mix groups, but instead just take over the conversations, loud, arrogant, obnoxious, as they promote their mix, and then another mix, and yet another other with another mix.
Mixing it, is not experimenting with it. Hiding behind others and become false group thugs is not you living it.
Writing their own books, giving more, giving less, changing this, changing that, while standing on the basics of HD, while trampling it all the same. Ignoring the pearls from within it as changing one word or syllable has more importance, than -living- it or learning to, as their ego’s are boasted by the people that buy stuff from them, thinking both parties are on the right track, of manipulating life, of creating shortcuts to salvation and the end of their suffering.
That is not duality at all, “ignoring the yin (dark), only seeking yang (light), living only half of a dualistic life, for moral superiority”
I’ve had access to tons and tons and tons of HD and mixed or altered information, and to see, not just for me, but for so many others too, that even pure HD info is not the key, the information is just a drug (gateway drug?) is just for the mind to think it can outsmart life, pretend to change the mind with more/better information. And Ra was the pusher of it, by popular demand.
And then mind make all these and those connections, and thus indeed combine structures, insights, frameworks.
Until *plop* hey, wait a minute, more info is not supporting actually, it is aggravating, it is steering me in an ever more mental direction of thinking to know, to -understand- but it is a lie.
I don’t need more -information- to make my decisions, I need to find out what my decision -IS-, first, without my powerful mind, and listen to that body consciousness, and follow its directions.
I don’t need to know what Color 3 -means-, I need to -live- it.
To apply it, use it, and see how it responds, reacts, struggles, and observe that, notice it behaving. I don’t need to know what Gate the Moon is in right now to live it. Yes it is awesome to understand what energies are present right now, how I sample life differently, right now. But -knowing- what Gate it is in, does not change how I -experience- life, right now.
And yes information of the framework of the how and why or when is interesting, but by just living it, it really does not matter if Reflectors are called Observers or Evaluators, and anyone (!) -selling- you that it does matter, has an agenda not to free you as a passenger, but is a prisoner of their own opinions on things, and help you become one too. And as we find our mental equals, we can salute each other and tap each other on the back for how fucking smart we are for knowing better than silly old Ra, but never outsmarting our own damn minds…
“Look at me, I’m pointing at the moon”, they say, look I changed HD and mixed it with this and that, want to hear my recipe, my version of how my mind made it -seem- better, so you can seem to feel better about it too. In your head?
No matter if you are called Richard Rudd, Karen Curry/Parker, Steve Rhodes or Juliane Hahn.
Question: “How do reflectors approach each other if we are supposed to be initiated?”
One answer: “Where do such distortions come from? What does it mean to be initiated?”
Why call it a distortion when you’re not sure yet what it is?
Doubt versus inquiry.
Anyways. This is a nice example of being initiated but needing to process, and I wrote about it 6 years ago here:
But I’ll add: to me, it is the perception of kick-starting my processing. Just like both your question/answer has. I felt, perceived, noticed I was initiated to answer this one, so I started processing it to answer, and in the mean time saw this question a few times during, but still nothing came to me to answer, while still perceiving, noticing to be initiated by it.
So someone comes along and does something, it could be towards you (a hug, a shout, a question, a smile) and you notice a shift by it, through it. It could also be a TV-ad, a picture you see online.
Nothing magical, nothing really special or something, just this perception, that yes, this is for me -to process- to maybe/perhaps engage with. When or how, is something else, but to notice this, first, is important. To perceive to be, initiated. No distortion here.
And sometimes, someone comes, asks, tells, does whatever, and I clearly notice -not- to be initiated. That it is not for me to process, which is a lot of the time. Much more than when I actually am (or perceive to be) initiated. No distortion here either.
So also, it is clear it is not the other persons doing, that they purposefully initiate me, with their agenda. Sure they could, and many do. But it is about me feeling that this, yes, has initiated me to process.
And then I do.
And then I wait, until the processing has finished and I know, yes, or no. Now I can do this, or interact with this someone on their question/journey, whatever it was they asked of me. Or no, I can not.
So when something is for me and me alone, no one else needs to initiate me. Like eating, or playing guitar.
When someone else is involved I need to be initiated, going out to dinner, or play in a band. This could be done by another person, but not necessarily. You can find out for yourself how it works for yourself, each Reflector for themselves.
There is talk that between people of the same Type, there is no Strategy; so Manifestors don’t need to inform each others, Generators not wait to respond, but I’m not sure if that is true. And I have seen examples of this not always working, so…
To answer the initial question: “How do reflectors approach each other if we are supposed to be initiated?” is, you experiment. Try it out by initiating yourself. Or, notice if you are already initiated by something to contact this Reflector. And if you notice, no, this feels off, I do not perceive to be initiated, even though my mind keeps annoying me with the subject, then see that, notice that, and move on. Sometimes we already are long time initiated and processing/operating accordingly without us being consciously aware, and sometimes we are not initiated but our minds heckle and harass us about it as if we should be.
What I learned through my journey in Human Design, is that before HD I thought life was really rough, and tough, and clear and black and white, that the way people interacted was always clear-cut and ‘manifested’ (for lack of a better word). This is this, and that is that. And I came to find it is incredibly subtle really, and nuanced, very delicate at times. And I was completely blind and unaware that these fine and even minute principles did run me, triggered me, initiated me already, loooong before I or my mind noticed any of it. HD helped me see these finer details of when, why and how I am triggered by external things, that kick-start my processing.
And that having this incredibly rough perception made me incredibly blind. To me being me, myself.
Weirdos in the mail:
Weirdo: how would you describe gate 26?
Me: describing I wouldn’t so much,a s know it, what it is capable of
but yeah BIG EGO is one
Weirdo: whhy is it called egoist
what are people projecting on me if i have 26.5
Me: you do have it !
Me: which is all they see
Weirdo: what do you mean?
Me: you think only about your Personality traits, while everyone only sees your Design traits
lots of mindy questions there bud
Weirdo: yeah why not mindy questions?
Me: book a session?
Weirdo: nah 😀
but people do see you personality and design right
Me: then my big ego says: bye 🙂
only you see P
only they see D
Weirdo: oh ok
but even my 22.2 conciouss sideshould be projected on , are you sure what you are talking about ?
Me: dude, go fuck yourself
are you drunk?
Weirdo: well whats your problem ? im just asking ? haha, im curious
not my fault if you have a bad day
Me: no you’re questioning me, while asking me, while not paying me, wasting my time
ah good, yeah all my fault
the end, you’re behaving like an asshole
(nice example of 26 response for you) *unfriend+block messaging*
Weirdos in the mail:
Weirdo: just so you know, you’re an asshole, and you should “reflect” on that.
Sayuri La Pydos 10 June at 12:13:
One specific topic that i haven’t found much material on is the insight from the experiment / living the design on Deja Vu phenomenon, which quite a strong phenomenon.
At first glance it looks like it’s either the same information that we recieved once before, either we proccess the information we recieve exactly as we did once before? And if yes what for?
***investigator at work***
Any insights&thoughts are welcome🙏
Sjef Romijn: The question is a setup. HD does not tell why I have caries, what my political views are, or if it will rain on Sunday.
HD helps us to be crystal clear on -what- the experience is. Not on why the experience happens, per se. It’s like asking, can HD tell me why I hate my neighbor? Why I think sexy thoughts about an other neighbor?
Deja Vu is an experience, of your perception. Ok great. Does there need to be a why, a meaning and purpose attached to it? No.
The mind demands that there is, but yeah, and open head ask questions that do not matter, asking what for is an open ego/heart question (prove it to me). Running around in asking questions but never finding answers, because … it’s a setup…
And it is not related to ‘Living Your Design’ either, it’s not a prerequisite to (LYD when you) have deja vu’s or to find out why they exist, except be a witness of them, to them, maybe/perhaps.
That’s not an investigation at work, that is just your mind playing with you. Making you chase after the rainbow, a dog biting in the waterjet of the hose as you water the plants, making you bet your mortgage in the casino and when you lose it goes: so, what’s next?
so (carefull, mansplaining here!) the title of the book ‘How to fuck a woman’s brains out’ to me means, to be so devoted to loving your partner -mind, body and soul- that she has no more desires left. That you have cared and catered for her so much, that she says: “thank you, I’m fine.”
Which is what I indeed try to do. And it is a big task, because I’m just a man, and to go that far is not easy. But the journey there is freaking awesome, and incredibly entertaining. No misogyny anywhere.
And one could go all bananas with my open centers and say: “see there, is not-self of him, in this center, that gate, ooh look at the color here.” Great.
Let’s begin with the close read and break-down of the comments on this feuilleton, after these screencaps:
Something interesting happened,
a few years ago, I noticed my own behaviour on FaceBook was not on par with me being me. I was too pushy, and sometimes even wrong.
So on December 17 2014 I left FB and started my own website, and a blog, where I could still post and share what I see. Some things I like, but some just what I notice.
And to have an outlet for my own writings too, without anyone commenting on them. And since then it has filled with roughly 2400 posts, links, pictures, funnies, videos and whatnot.
Some of my writings are horrible, and some are divine. Some of my writings clearly show my issues, some look like I have no issues what so ever.
However, they are a nice archive of what I see, of what I notice, of what I deem interesting, or funny, or hilarious enough to blog about, to post, to share, to copy paste.
After a year I came back to FB, and since have changed my tone, not because I seek to make money with it, but simply cause some people actually grow, or mutate, change.
And some people like some of the more divine writings and share them in other places, like Facebook. Like this post:
http://www.mcha.nl/2014/03/14/the-human-design-system/ which was recently shared about 8 times on FB, which seemed to make some people upset…
Yesterday Birgitte West takes this post on my blog: http://www.mcha.nl/2016/10/23/relationship-therapy/ as if I am offering this as ‘HDS Relationship counseling’.
Which is hilarious, but false.
It is posted on my own personal blog and this happens to be a book I enjoyed. I did not write it, but for me, and my relationship with both myself and any intimate partner since, it was wonderful to be able to see an angle I had not see before.
It is a book where intimate honesty is of the highest standard. Of course the writers (a man and a woman!) made a shocking title, which serves a purpose, which I find funny.
But now she is claiming to finally ‘pulling the trigger on me’ as if having this or that sexual preference, or even a mild interest, has anything to do with what kind of sessions one provides. Or that I promote BDSM in any of my services. The title of the blogpost itself ‘Relationship Therapy’ is my own, indeed, which is tongue in cheek, but yeah, there is no defense against stupidity… She writes:
“stay away from this one — sick of seeing this character being hailed as worth following as a so called HDS authority
#notkeepingquiet #malechauvinistcrap #nowyouknow #thisisnothds #sjefiscrap”
And all this behind my back, since Birgitte blocks me for ages on FB, although her other account Tre Cinque keeps a close watch, and she scans my blog for dirt. To each their own hobby.
But also, what a huge disappointment for any future partners, if they themselves are into heavy BDSM, cause disclaimer: I’m not.
How do reflectors approach each other if we are supposed to be initiated?
You: Are we….?
Me: Yes we are.
You: Sorry not buying that nonsense. Life is what you make of it. It is a do it yourself job. Felt misarable a long time waiting for invitations until I felt live is my party. I can do whatever I want. This statement is taking every self empowerment out of my life. Can’t be good. Human design is inspirational not a bible.
Me: Yes but who is not buying it (but an argumentative mind)?
Are you experimenting with Strategy & Authority? Do you understand how that works? Would you like to?
We are not here to wait for invitations, we are here however -to be initiated-. But also, if you do anything for yourself, you don’t need to be initiated either. When someone else is involved, then we do.
Then we take a month, a Lunar Cycle to see if it (what we were initiated about) is for us.
Maybe time to read a good book about it like: Your Own Authority – A Beginners Guide to Human Design (eBook)
And/or book a Foundation Reading with a certified Analyst?
Human Design is a tool that you can apply, use, to find out your Inner Authority, so you can make your decisions correctly. About how your bio-mechanical machine operates.
Inspiration is only for the mind, where you can take the things your mind likes, adheres to or agrees with. Human Design teaches us that there is no choice. The experiment show that.
It is not about happy, it is about the duality of life, yin and yang, good and bad, and make your decisions regardless of those out circumstances. Not (even) because of them.
Me: “This statement is taking every self empowerment out of my life.” a good point
Because Human Design shows you, you don’t need any external empowerment, you are already whole and empowered from within. If anything external can take yours away, wonder if you had any to begin with.
And also, as an inquiry: who (or what) seeks empowerment, needs it, yearns for it, but our (ego)mind?
It’s a journey alright.
Me: I’ve heard/read people state that same type can approach same type, so projectors can approach other projectors without invitation and so on. Never experimented with it to see if it’s true.
For me it is not even the perception of initiation but, again, if my body moves somewhere. If it shows up at someones door.
So the question is not how, to me (because how is always mind, always trying to strategize, and manipulate, to change that which is or is not), but to notice when you do, when you are.
When it is without any form or kind of a mental agenda.
When I can perceive it is correct, noticing to be in the flow and not pushing the river. Basically when I notice that I have no choice.
Otherwise, you simply don’t (initiate), because who is wanting to do so anyways (but mind)?
You: Not true it is not always mind….you can follow gut feeling or hart. Very clear to feel the difference.
On Lunar Cycle Processing for Reflectors:
I found, that if I entered into something incorrectly (smoking cigarettes, picking up someone in bar me (and/or her) utterly wasted), I do not need a month (processing) to get out of it.
Although, I may have been processing it unconsciously, but so far that is what I think now.
If I entered into something correctly but is something bad, then I do need a month processing.
Also, many ‘bad’ things were correct for me, to experience. Not because of their outcome or what I learned because of them, not any so called logical reason or meaning, but simply correct to experience as an experience, full stop.
I can only start processing something by myself if it is only for me, or about me. To buy a new jacket, or to play guitar, or not.
For all things where other people are invloved I need external initiating to process it to begin with. Otherwise if I start processing this or that job, or relationship without external initiation, I will never finish processing cause then it is all mind.
I can not initiate myself, cause that is mind.
And then if properly initiated, after processing a month and it is not clear, or not a hell yes, then I process another month, and if need be another other month, and so on.
Until it is ‘clear’ until I noticed my body moved here, or there, engaged, or disengaged.
So an important question to me in or before processing is: how did I get (t)here? Did I get into it by my own mind, or by my correctness in the first place? Before I tackle: has it run its course (yet)?
an older quote by Leela Swann-Herbert:
“Reflectors with their sampling aura can close or open themselves to the other…they cannot keep out the transits. Reflectors only need to be initiated to decisions (and interactions) that involve the other – activities, projects, places, relationships…No type needs to be asked, invited or initiated to decisions that only involve themselves – all the types except Manifestors need to have life bring them activities, projects, places, relationships that involve others…from outside of their aura – Generators/asked; Projectors/invited; Reflectors/initiated…“
Anything dealing with anyone else but me, we Reflectors all need to be initiated. So all those situations you can now possibly think of or remember, are those exact situations where this is true. All of them, all the time.
If not initiated then it is (a) mind(fuck).
For me as a 4/6 profile there is an added nuance (not a complication though) that the initiations (or ‘solutions’) come from my network of friends, so for houses, partners, jobs.
Buying motorbikes or Guitars or iPads seem a little different, especially when bought online, for me.
But my recent moped buy was offered to me by a long time friend, from a work colleague of his.
I was processing owning one for quite a few years already (and nothing happened!), but not until my partner mentioned getting one each (ping initiation happening) I shared with my friend I was looking for one, and he told me a few days later he knew one.
An invitation could perfectly well be an initiation. To me it is the perception of a trigger indeed, of my Lunar Processing starting.
Usually someone asks me something for them, about them, like “wanna do this for me, or with me?” kind of questions.
To me, it is about -the perception- of being invited or initiated. If you perceive to be, then you probably are…
I’m an HD Guide & Teacher, but I don’t or rarely advertise any services, until someone asks -and- it is correct for me (too). Then I can shift into gear of what I have to offer, to them. And if that is a course for instance someone initiated me into, then I can advertise it somewhere else too (as have seen in the past)
But I can not just say: you know what, I’m gonna organize one this May.
In the mean time I simply continue to study, or even work on presentations, for myself, by myself. Some may never be ‘called for’, or not in this life time. I still had fun creating them being with them in my own processing, in my own honing of my information presentation.
In some situations (publishing a book), if the conversation goes there, and you both perceive to be ‘triggered’ then hey maybe something happens with it. Or someone overhears and steals it, or beats you to it publishing it. Who knows…? 😉
Or maybe the conversation was great, wonderful ideas exchanged, but you notice it has no life, no juice. No one is triggered, nothing ‘happens’.
And not also buy that quad-bike cause everyone has one and you do want to go quadding. Check, first.
Taken from an online discussion in the Human Design Reflector group on Facebook