MoonBlog 20.6 Wisdom

weirdos in the mail

Weirdo: Sjef, I owe you an apology.

me: What for?

weirdo: I came at you pretty good one day, you punted me from your group and defriended me
no harm, no foul

me: well that is inaccurate, we discussed your non Human Design topics in the comments, as we work(ed) with 2 admins and 1 moderator, and per the group rules decided to delete the comments and remove you from the group.
but yeah, people who are into channeling and such I defriend, I have no capacity to filter all that crap (too).
And, duality man: yes harm, yes foul!

weirdo: I don’t always agree with you, and I will not get into that. Not my purpose here. I am a classic 3/5 and I am not shy about it. I also have a RAX Rulership 3 as well…..quite a mix.
However….I want to be clear that I respect you.

me: so you keep saying…

weirdo: your lunar tracking sheet from your page, I did that something like 2 years ago and it brought massive relief. and People kept asking and asking me to translate it and do the work for them. Fuck that…..I kept trying to encourage and show….and lead….and get them to do what I did. And many are lazy and lack the will to go do it themselves, spoon fed.

me: so you make an individual tool of personal empowerment into a shitty version of itself to spoon feed them automated?

weirdo: So this past June I quit a $140K a year job, and have gone all in with Karen Parker and am doing her training. Probably not in alignment with you….and that’s cool. It is for me.
I am going all in on coaching and doing my own thing way off the map…but associated with them. I now have an LLC and a FB page called Quantum Reflections…website launching soon and I am going slow.
I ended up reaching out to John at Genetic Matrix about a month ago and worked with him and that spreadsheet inspired by yours. He ended up creating this, and it was released today for Pro level subscriptions.

me: yes I got 2 messages about that before you emailed me. So who/what initiated you to do so, per your S&A?
My disclaimer page says: “people can use ‘my’ material from this website freely, any and all” which does not say, ‘companies can’.
Besides that, there already is this Transit Tool provided by myBodyGraph which I reviewed here: MoonBlog 54.6 Selectivity which as an online automated tool is far superior.
there also already is The Path of the Moon – A Human Design Experiential Workbook a culmination of the Path of the Moon workshop/courses Dharmen and Leela gave for many years and I joined/enjoyed 3 times.

weirdo: I have posted this in a few places and when people toss credit at me, I am quick to say, “hey, I didn’t create this….it was Sjef that showed me how to do this from his website reflector sessions.

me: what is this, some kind of repenting?

weirdo: Anyway, I may not agree with you but I do respect the hell out of you.

me: so you keep saying…

weirdo: I also am very heavy into Dispenza’s work and I feel that is for the passenger consciousness. A compliment to HD and they are in synergy for me.
I believe that we are all beings of light in these shells we walk around in here in 3D reality. I am into quantum theory, dispenza, Human design, and a lady named Allison Armstrong who does human insticnts. for me personally, they all fit into a synthesis…and it is unique and my spin on life.
While I may not agree with everything, your adherence to S/A was a touchstone for me to keep on my HD work.
I do feel we are in a great awakening worldwide.
I would point to the transits and the utter fucking chaos from the unconscious masses. The Schumann response and the heightened photonic activity…..the energy this year is insane. Do look into the schumann, I would invite some attention there as a data point. and yes….I have been to the very top of the Q thing and it is in fact real and it is growing.
However…..I have chosen to fully embrace and live my design and go all in as a reflector. I like Karen…I don’t agree with everything she says…but she knows her shit and is building something new. Evolution….like Rudd did.

me: that is the marketing in the window, yes, evolution, it rings nice, and it caught you in its webs, like so many other wannabees/newbies. When it is just more ego/mind horseshit, and the fact you need to use -their words- to explain why you are doing it, means you’re operating from a convinced believing mind. A wonderful signpost of the not-self, mind. You don’t know what correctness is, what it looks like. You keep coming with mental arguments why this, why that, and those are never true. It’s hard to wake up to the fact you are a believer, and are a slave to your minds convictions, especially when Gate 47 is activated, or as in our case, our Personality Sun even. It thinks it’s so goddamn smart, it believes it’s own lies. A tough trip, I know, been there, done that, no t-shirt.

weirdo: I feel that very soon people like us are going to be in high demand and very valued.
I do my own thing as I observe you do.

me: that is not a feeling but a thought, it trips up so many people not understanding this difference, but also another nice signpost of following the convictions of the mind by calling it a feeling. Another reason so many of us call thoughts a feeling, is so that it won’t get challenged, as they hide behind this falsely named feeling. We are not our mind, we are not our thoughts, and mind is -never- the Inner Authority. And you, are an idiot.

weirdo: But be clear that I do RESPECT you.

me: so you keep saying…

weirdo: If you ever want to chat or pull a video call, I would welcome that. I am in Arizona in the US
that is MY chart…. Green are defined channels in my design for lunar activations. Yellow are lunar Transits Orange are foundational
You inspired this…..and it is going to help a lot of people understand their design.

me: you took something that was mine, not yours, and now it is made into a commercial product with copyright even, but most importantly, it misses the 5-6 points explanation , how or even why to use it, but then again, they can always keep coming to me for their ‘Individual personalized and extended lunar & other transits cycle chart to discover and work with your own lunar cycle in a profound way, for Reflectors and other types.’ which is handmade and comes with their own private one hour session too.
That write up by Victoria Bagnell is not it, it is shallow, and it is wrong on multiple counts.
So people are left with just another piece of mind candy and not a tool for liberation. You yourself never even had a Lunar Cycle session or Lunar workshop.
You took the info and worked with it, as best you could, and sure you had results/effects, but you still do not understand what is actually used for.
But have (ego) sold as if you do. You are a one eyed king in the land of the blind, and an idiot.

weirdo: Powerful stuff for newbies…..and handy for me to import into my phone and set notifications.
I am hoping to work with him to automate that aspect.

me: it is going to be yet another powerful distraction for newbies, and John Yuill keeps offering more and more homogenized mind candy, so the unintended result, is that people sign up for countless HD lists, follow countless instagram influencers, read all the quotes from Ra somewhere, and get the most shiniest of subscriptions of online HD tools, but not one decision is ever made any different. not once does anyone ever actually get into the experiment of using and applying their Strategy first, to find out their Inner Authority second and then follow through on that then found Inner Authority. Getting stuck in all the wonderfully colored animations and quotes, but made not one actual change in their lives not controlled by their minds. Because yes, of course knowing about HD has an effect, but knowing does not an Inner Authority make. But talking about that will never help, because this is not a ‘convince the mind’ show with better or other arguments. The only way HD ever works, is if -you do the work- if you apply it. The rest is just window dressing, and most get caught up by window shopping, with the nice decorations, but nothing deeper content and sustenance than the shallow portal.

And you did not enhance my tool, or ‘evolved it’, you watered it down, is my observation.
Others tel me: “where is your cheque, or life time subscription?” or “They should pay you.” or “Who is this tool!?”
But I have no need for any of those. And you, are an idiot.
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MoonBlog 30.5 Irony

When people think it’s about the shininess of the content of the bargain they propose
but it’s all about the initiation, which is irrelevant to you or the contents themselves.

It is simply correct, or, not correct.

Not because of the shiny things you offer, or the results you propose.
Correctness does not care about the this & that of it.

add-on/edit: unless the bargain is sex… I guess, then yes, promised shiny results are key 😉

But when you try to bargain something that is not sex, aahh well
get ready to be surprised 😀
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MoonBlog 28.1 preparation

I’m about to throw in the towel, leave all these FB HD groups. Again 😉

The influx of newbies who are drawn in by people like Jenna Zoe selling people ‘Reflector muffins’ and ‘dieting by Type’, combined with the groups admin/moderators too uninterested in keeping the contents about HD.

I really enjoy sharing experience and knowledge with others about HD, in individual sessions, classes and in those groups.

But it seems it is just not my network anymore, when other Certified or semi Professionals also use such groups for shooting from the hip and just blabber from their minds.

I don’t care about the newbie doing so, it is what we are here for, to help guide the way, shine the light, give proper info.

But when the trained, or even certified start doing so, I know it is no longer ‘safe’ for me anymore. When some caretakers take a break themselves, and the groups instantly become much much worse.

Now I know it is in part the Transits cause every single year around this time, this notion happens. I know it is the 4th line overwhelm and sense of abdication.
Is it my Kiron Return of last May? Is it the caving in of the structure of the Cross of Planning too?

I just don’t feel available anymore to the masses, the lurkers, the silent readers, and the network seems depleted, or at least shrinking.

Anyways, maybe see you again elsewhere
(For now, I left a couple of badly moderated groups, and blocked a few more idiots, maybe it helps)
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MoonBlog 54.6 Selectivity

MoonBlog 54.6 exalted in ‘Three Activations’ View

As someone who is in the experiment well over 11 years, and providing my own Transit/Lunar Cycle service, I find the Transit Tool provided by myBodyGraph very advanced, very elaborate too. Maybe even too advanced for beginners.

However, there is so much functionality in it, some obvious by just clicking here and there, some perhaps not so obvious.

So is it for beginners? Yes and no, for some it will be an online honey pot and resource of incredible information, for others it might be a nerd fest of overwhelm.

At the same time, the information that is provided, like all Retrograde Planets, and when they start or end doing so, and other statistics, the live view is fascinating.

Over time one will use a few key functions I presume, you may gravitate towards some different ones than I would, and because it is so elaborate and vast this is all possible.

When having access to Steps 2 and 3 on just one chart, but then not having that same access in the Transit Tool is unfortunate and only overcome by buying the unlimited access.

My Transit Cycle Sequence in full

And sometimes I end up in another information layer I need to remind myself to click the exit cross on the right and come back to the big overview of menus again, where I can then play again with which information to show:
Themes, keynotes and Lines under Planetary Activations
Keynotes, Not-Self Keynotes, Not-Self Questions under Centers
Keynotes under Channels
Elaborate Ordering options under Gates
The many, many ‘hover mouse over’ information baloons

And once activating some of the many options in the ‘show’ menu under the Moon Cycle, another vast bank of info opens up to play with, which I enjoy very much, which I can imagine any beginner struggling with, but starting out with selecting and deselecting which options to show, may help there indeed.

The Ephemeris part did not phase me that much, but can imagine other people have a field day looking forwards or back to certain events, although limited to the years 1900 – 2060. Ok I tried actually and got from December 31st 1899 until May 30st of 2061 😉

Add on: What is odd to me and may confuse others, is the use of the blue and green color. In the MMI, when making a Transit Chart, what is Resonant or you, becomes Green and what forms a Channel (Harmonic) is Blue. In this tool it is the other way around. Luckily there is also the Three Activations view, where the Red & Black of your own chart remain intact and Transits are Green, as seen in the picture top right.

Do check out the descriptions and screenshots here: before buying, to see if it tickles you funny, or perhaps not.

A big thanks to Pontus Erik Karlsson (5/1 Reflector) from for being paramount in the idea, development and implementation of this online resource.
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MoonBlog 61.5 Influence

So I noticed quite a few of the questions and experiences of some Reflectors here (Human Design Reflectors FaceBook group), stem from feeling/perceiving to be off kilter, unhinged even, unbalanced mostly.

I’d like to give my view on how and why that is, and yes there is a how to this 😉

So, when we, as Reflectors, follow our Strategy & Authority, meaning when we -apply- it, when we use it for our decision making, the results are something else. When I first met Human Design 11 years ago (last Monday), I simply could never have imagined such a way of going about things. I’m someone who needs to be told, and then I can play with it, and can dive quite deep in experimenting. But before I’m told/explained, I have no clue and wonder around like an idiot, lost, deeply lost.

I met Human Design roughly 18 months before I ever saw my chart, and so it did not make sense, I could not ‘use’ it, I didn’t even know there were charts, so it was just another blabla story to me. And this guy with the funny hat did not appeal either. But when I was given my chart, at age 38, now I had some kind of framework to jump off from, explore with, I kinda had a baseline.

So, apply, apply, apply, rinse and repeat. Making a stink of it, doing really bad, not following it, telling myself all kinds of stories about what HD was and wasn’t and of course my overgrown identifications with what/who I thought I was and had become and my abilities.

But that was just the first part of it, and something I realized again last night as I contemplated some of this groups topics and comments.

But first, another part of becoming more self, and truly whatever this self is, whether it is a this kind or that kind, more like this or more like so, becoming and being you depends on understanding and having experimented, experienced your individual Lunar Cycle and thus how you sample life, differently. Which can be a bit of a leap to get into, but after a while it is like a fish swimming in water, since it is all about the observation. Not the interpretation, not even the (limits of our) perception, it’s observation, and we get better and better at it once we start, go there, get experienced with it. And we already are quite perceptive as Reflectors, so, focusing on that, really helps to get a better sense of this illusive, non consistent self.

And through it, again, more relaxation, in ourselves, and in life. And maybe even feeling empowered (a word I hardly ever use). Not in control mind you.

But, and this is, to me at least, a mix of mechanics and its results of using them correctly, the frequency between the Design Crystal in us, and our Magnetic Monopole is unstable, most of the time. And this is where PHS and Environment come in. Because through the application of correct Digestion, and physically being in the right frequency of my correct Environment, we stabilize that frequency.

We can not stabilize the frequency between the Personality Crystal and the Magnetic Monopole and so we’ll always see-saw between our Motivation and our Transference, between our View and our Distraction, but we can stabilize the frequency of the Design, of the body. And through that stable frequency, the Magnetic Monopole can then hook us up to our correct Trajectory through life.

In about a week, I’m at the mid point of my Kiron Return, coming off the Roof as a 4/6, and so stuff is noticeably changing, except what the change itself is, but I do notice a change of frequency field, for me, to me, with me. I slowly begin to perceive to be called, called out, outside, to the floor, off the roof, and so yesterday I had a lovely chat with someone about many things Human Design and when I came home it dawned on me, I needed to apply my PHS, it is my baseline, it is my go to. Not for the atoms of the food that I eat, not for the actual taste or aroma of those atoms that I digest. But for stabilizing that frequency !! It was after my lovely dinner (which is quite fixed to what I can and can not eat) but also my late night snack, which also is repetitive, according to my PHS, it came to me:

My stability in this life as I perceive and you can too, is because of the stability of that frequency between my Design Crystal and my Magnetic Monopole. And it’s like a game of dominoes. If one is off, all could be off. I become unbalanced, unhinged even, insecure, a mess, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, physically.

To realize how subtle yet profound the implications are, and how relatively easy it is to simply go there, and do, apply.

And this is without any Transits consideration even. Those can really add to my experience, for good or bad. And so my perception of life becomes distorted when I don’t, my ‘vulnerability’ for lack of a better word, to life becomes greater when I don’t Digest correctly, when I’m in the wrong Environment, in the wrong frequencies, digesting the wrong people, the wrong words, food, energies.

So I felt like sharing that with this group, because it is simple yet profound. Live your Design, step by step, slowly slowly. Becoming stable in our openness.

Add-on: One of the things I did yesterday, was I went quite the length to get one of my fav foods. Even though I was a bit tired and I had to go to the other side of the city center (I live on the North East side of it) and then 1 other neighborhood, which is quite the journey with all the one way streets and traffic lights and rush hour too. But in that doing, it became more than simple atomic sustenance for the body, it became spirit food.

MoonBlog 61.5
Gate 61 Mystery, inner truth. The awareness of universal underlying principles
Gate 61 Line 5 Influence
Exalted: The enlightened Father figure whose recognized wisdom and powerful assertion can mold a generation by its influence. The pressure to know that may result in influence and wisdom.
Detriment: A tendency in power to want to enforce compliance to ensure lasting influence. The pressure in knowing to resent challenges and demand acceptance.
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The great disappointment…

…for Reflectors is when they put their faith in the other. This is the great disappointment that awaits all Reflectors because sooner or later that is something that’s going to hurt them.

They are here to embrace what is a larger force in their life. It’s just what they’re here for. And of course, the moment that they are on that mundane plane that’s when the disappointment arises. The moment that the conditioning of the people around them is stronger than the conditioning of the program that’s the moment that truly the Reflector becomes lost.

They’re not here to reflect you and me. They only sample it. And what they’re really sampling is to see how much of the program you’ve taken in; because, after all, it’s not good for you. What’s good for them is not good for you. They can carry it inside them and it’s perfect. You carry it inside you and you’re lost in the not-self.”

– Ra Uru Hu

The one thing…

… that an energy type likes about a non-energy type – The Projector – is that the Projector is interested in them. That’s true; this is the Projector. They’re interested in the other.

So when an energy type meets a Reflector they’re surprised; they’re often upset. “They’re not interested in me.” They expect that interest to be there; it is not there. The Reflector aura samples, it takes just a touch of the other. No more. It isn’t to say that when you see a Reflector with somebody else and you’re doing a composite chart, because I can hear the question coming, that they don’t activate it. Yes, of course, they do. This is just simple basic mechanics. But it’s very important to understand something. It has a very, very minimal effect and in terms of conditioning. It is nowhere as powerful as the same activations coming from the planets. And this is the difference.

The Reflector has no way to protect itself from the daily program. So, in fact, more than any other creature on this planet they are designed to be deeply impacted by the program—Sun worshipers, actually. It may be that the Reflector cycle is ruled by the Moon, but they are focused on the neutrino field. It is what they’re here to take in. They’re here to take in the primary programming information.”

– Ra Uru Hu

The Genetic Hierarchy

In the image above, you can see the three other Types that we have looked at arranged in a triangular structure, with the Reflector in the middle. In terms of the genetic hierarchy, the Reflector has a unique view and role. The Manifestor, Generator and Projector are all solar Types, which means that they operate in a generalised imprinting program rooted in the neutrino stream coming from the sun. The Reflector is the only Type that can be described as ‘lunar’ since it operates in an imprinting program that is reflected through the movement of the moon as it passes through the solar neutrino stream.

In history, the Reflectors, like Projectors have been generally ignored, since the energy Types have ruled throughout our history. The future lies in a new direction however, with the unfolding of the natural genetic hierarchy. The Reflector’s place in this new order will be as an embodiment of the ultimate form of social and global justice, since their potential is to reflect everything around them with perfect equanimity.

Because Reflectors have no fixed definition in their design, there can be a quick assumption that they are somehow more vulnerable than the other three Types. This is not strictly true. We have already seen that the undefined centres are not necessarily a handicap if they are operating correctly. In fact, we have shown throughout this manual that it is the undefined centres that can be the deepest windows on wisdom. It is true that Reflectors are indeed vulnerable, but if they know their design clearly, they are absolutely protected from identifying with anything at all. Because the Reflector’s chemistry magnifies everything and everyone, they have the potential to see everything that is really happening in a way that no one else can. They are a key to a global consciousness, because they participate through their openness in filtering the general consciousness field.

The role of the Reflector is to be one with the totality. They are extremely important to us because their unique perspective is much closer to our future emerging consciousness than for example, the perspective of a Manifestor, which is deeply selfish in comparison.

Their greatest ability is to read others. Added to this, Reflectors have a deep kinship to the moon, and thus they have an opportunity for a mystical life that most of us cannot know.

They can know a deep connection to a celestial body in an ongoing and profound way. In a certain sense, Reflectors represent the moon on earth.

The greatest handicap of a Reflector is their greatest gift; their openness and vulnerability. If they do not know how they function, and if they identify with what they are mirroring, they will easily get lost and confused. Because of their impressionability, they can become very dependent on those around them and therefore they have to be very careful about who they allow into the inner circle of their lives. Reflectors come into the world full of wonder, but so often, having met the not-self of the world, they suffer from a deep disappointment.” – Richard Rudd, Living Your Design – A New Manual for Awakening (2004)

MoonBlog 2.5 Intelligent application

The Reflector Lunar Cycle is not a ritual to obey and follow, that when you don’t, someting bad happens.

It is not about ticking off all the boxes of pre-requisites, and then live happily ever after either.

It’s about becoming such a calm silent observer, for the incredible subtleties of what is already going on, outside (transits, people) and inside (perceptions, experiences) self and not-self, that you can live in awareness of where life takes you, what your Trajectory is, and to relax into how choice-less we all are.

To surrender to that, and see, observe and witness, what that is like.

While dancing the jitterbug, riding your bicycle, making out, cooking dinner or anything else.

MoonBlog 2.5
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And they all lived happily ever after

A Story For All The Children In This World

Once upon a time there were a queen and a king, and they were very happy together. They lived in a beautiful castle surrounded by the lush forests and meadows of their extensive kingdom, but their greatest joy were their four children.
Each child was something special, and since they were so different in their own ways, the royal couple had four towers built for them and styled entirely to their individual wishes and needs.

The eldest son was a Reflector, and his name was Raphael. His tower was covered with ivy and surrounded by old trees, which housed a lot of different animals. The birds and the squirrels and the deer and the bunnies came to greet Raphael each morning, and in some special nights the little Reflector even slept outside under the stars and the moon. He loved to watch the moon making it’s way across the sky, and he felt very connected to it and just as changeable and different each day and night.
When Raphael spent time with other children or grownups, he could sense what they feel, and that surprised him each time. He actually felt like a mirror: “Depending on who I am with, I see myself in a different way. Only when I’m alone I’m truly myself again”, he thought.
Despite his youth, Raphael was a precious advisor to his parents, because he could also sense the needs and moods of the entire population in his parent’s kingdom.
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MoonBlog 39.4 Temperance

The last part on the Reflector is nonsensical homogenization, and fantasy wishful thinking writing based on a theoretic understanding of Reflectors.

“Having clear boundaries and conscious awareness of what’s really going on during the game will help him not be overwhelmed by others or feel disappointed in the way the game is going but rather feel a sense of surprise and wonder at the excitement and flow of it all.”

Those pre-requisites of ‘having clear boundaries and conscious awareness’ are unattainable for any/all Reflectors and can not be used as a tool to counter such influences, this is just pretending to have any such control over the influence of the experience, first, and for all Reflectors, second. 7 centered Make-ability syndrome all over again.

Also as if being overwhelmed is something to avoid, first, and or bad, second, but most of all as if one actually can avoid any of the experience in such a way. But then also, as if ‘feeling a sense of’ [anything] is the goal! And then particularly or specifically “surprise and wonder at the excitement and flow of it all” as if Reflectors are toddlers or something, what the actual…?

Reflectors/Evaluators (still waiting for any proof that Ra himself ever called Reflectors Evaluators) do sample, do experience, but this way of writings suggests one only is one if one feels this sense of surprise and even wonder, first, but for the flow of it all? There is no room for things not flowing (say an accident happens with a player breaking a leg infield and needs medical attention, or a fight among players from opposing teams, or opposing fans), no room for unexcitement, which happens much MUCH more often than not and is just as valid an experience, especially when IT IS the actual experience of this, or that Reflector.

But also, as if 3 Reflectors, or 300 would experience all the same in the same situation, first, and only if they have clear boundaries and conscious awareness (can we measure this, is that in kilograms, or other units?) second.

Ah man… this is truly fantasy blabla-land.

Edit/add-on: it seems in BG5 there is no deconditioning and therefor something external must bring forth the peace, satisfaction, success and surprise (and wonder at the excitement and flow of it all), when living your design it is not brought (in/out?) by external factors, it is a result of you Living Your Design.

I can understand if one teaches things in certain ways, this is the conclusion people arrive at. And therefor surprise and awe/wonder happens because of this (positive thing only), or because of that (any other positive outer circumstance) because the teaching itself omits how it does work, so it does not sound too googoogaga, when in fact that is the -only- realm it does functions in: dark matter and dark energy.

And therefor has become yet another way of misrepresenting Reflectors and what they are and how they do work/function, when HD is probably the only tool available to explain Reflectors well, they seem to fucking miss the mark on each occasion.
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MoonBlog 12.3 Confession

Question: “How do reflectors approach each other if we are supposed to be initiated?”
One answer: “Where do such distortions come from? What does it mean to be initiated?”

Why call it a distortion when you’re not sure yet what it is?
Doubt versus inquiry.

Anyways. This is a nice example of being initiated but needing to process, and I wrote about it 6 years ago here:

But I’ll add: to me, it is the perception of kick-starting my processing. Just like both your question/answer has. I felt, perceived, noticed I was initiated to answer this one, so I started processing it to answer, and in the mean time saw this question a few times during, but still nothing came to me to answer, while still perceiving, noticing to be initiated by it.

So someone comes along and does something, it could be towards you (a hug, a shout, a question, a smile) and you notice a shift by it, through it. It could also be a TV-ad, a picture you see online.

Nothing magical, nothing really special or something, just this perception, that yes, this is for me -to process- to maybe/perhaps engage with. When or how, is something else, but to notice this, first, is important. To perceive to be, initiated. No distortion here.

And sometimes, someone comes, asks, tells, does whatever, and I clearly notice -not- to be initiated. That it is not for me to process, which is a lot of the time. Much more than when I actually am (or perceive to be) initiated. No distortion here either.

So also, it is clear it is not the other persons doing, that they purposefully initiate me, with their agenda. Sure they could, and many do. But it is about me feeling that this, yes, has initiated me to process.

And then I do.

And then I wait, until the processing has finished and I know, yes, or no. Now I can do this, or interact with this someone on their question/journey, whatever it was they asked of me. Or no, I can not.

So when something is for me and me alone, no one else needs to initiate me. Like eating, or playing guitar.

When someone else is involved I need to be initiated, going out to dinner, or play in a band. This could be done by another person, but not necessarily. You can find out for yourself how it works for yourself, each Reflector for themselves.

There is talk that between people of the same Type, there is no Strategy; so Manifestors don’t need to inform each others, Generators not wait to respond, but I’m not sure if that is true. And I have seen examples of this not always working, so…

To answer the initial question: “How do reflectors approach each other if we are supposed to be initiated?” is, you experiment. Try it out by initiating yourself. Or, notice if you are already initiated by something to contact this Reflector. And if you notice, no, this feels off, I do not perceive to be initiated, even though my mind keeps annoying me with the subject, then see that, notice that, and move on. Sometimes we already are long time initiated and processing/operating accordingly without us being consciously aware, and sometimes we are not initiated but our minds heckle and harass us about it as if we should be.

What I learned through my journey in Human Design, is that before HD I thought life was really rough, and tough, and clear and black and white, that the way people interacted was always clear-cut and ‘manifested’ (for lack of a better word). This is this, and that is that. And I came to find it is incredibly subtle really, and nuanced, very delicate at times. And I was completely blind and unaware that these fine and even minute principles did run me, triggered me, initiated me already, loooong before I or my mind noticed any of it. HD helped me see these finer details of when, why and how I am triggered by external things, that kick-start my processing.

And that having this incredibly rough perception made me incredibly blind. To me being me, myself.
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MoonBlog 45.6 & 12.1 (exalted)

So this is maybe a kind of a ‘heads up’. As a Reflector being called the canary in the coal mine, this may be relevant. But then again, it might be just me, personally…

So about a year ago, some of the foods I eat started to make me sick, as in stomach hurt and nausea, wanting to vomit, but mostly, diarrhea. I would feel a nut in my stomach that needed to pass through me, and out, and only then would the nausea stop too, and I no longer felt sick.

Now my PHS is Color 2 Tone 1, Open Taste as Determination, Cognition Smell. So I eat a lot of the same foods, a fixed menu that rotates around, and most times similar combinations of foods, of flavours and tastes. And then very rarely but still usually one meal would be replaced by another.

But about a year ago I also started experimenting with making more my own foods, so buying the individual spices and combine them to get the same meals, instead of these prepackaged flavours from the shop. So especially with the curry noodles I made, not good. That whole meal has now left the Menu. But no replacement…

Or, not yet, usually something new comes along and I only notice in hindsight it had replaced another meal, now, one fell away, nothing new came along. Puzzling.

But not just the curry spices themselves are off now, the egg noodles are too, the veggies I used with it, can’t eat it anymore either. So all separate parts of the one meal I can not combine even in other dishes… Something to notice.
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